Monday, September 12, 2011

Do The Orders Still Stand?

Welcome to the blog that looks to expose the numerous fallacies, distortions, lies, misquotes, mistruths that the official conspiracy theory requires to be valid.

Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta was in the Presidential Emergency Operation Center with Vice President Cheney as Flight 77 approaced Washington, D.C. This plane was unidentified and flying in restricted airspace for over 45 mintues since the second tower was attacked and it was not intercepted by the Airforce. In fact, two fighters were launched but were sent out over the Atlantic searching for Russians.

On May 23, 2003 in front of the 9/11 Commission, Secretary Mineta testified:

"During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "
Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

Watch Mineta's Testimony To The 9/11 Commmission on CSPAN:

Further evidence from NORAD's Major General Larry Arnold's testimony to the 9/11 Commission confirms Norman Mineta's account of Cheney's words and actions that day as this analysis shows.

Vice President Cheney, the American people deserve to know what were the orders and why did they stand?

Do the orders still stand?


HenryB said...

Isn't it obvious that the reason we don't know about the orders is they were irrelevant and the commmison, made up of really smart people, knew that? Or they were defense orders and all he was saying was they weren't changing tactics?

Hardly a "proof" of an inside job.

Swing Dangler said...

The reason we have no idea what the order was is because Cheney testified behind closed doors and off the record.

Those changing tactics that weren't changed would have been what? To not shoot down a plane as none had been shot down up to that point?

Second, if you read the other supporting accounts linked to in the article, you would have noticed that they support Mineta's testimony. The only order that could have been was to NOT shoot down the incoming plane heading towards the Pentagon. Read all of the facts closely before relying on really smart people. According to Commissioner Hamilton:
The 9/11 Commission was lied to by the Pentagon, know of 100 people that have something to hide, didn't get everything right, underfunded by the Administration, and most shocking of all: "Set up to fail."

Geezer Power said...


I was snooping around jref and seen you getting into it with, the gubmint shill, Pomaroo. In my opinion Gravy and him are Bu$h suckers and are a far cry from being what would be considered intellectual, although both of them sit in google eyed attention while wringing their hands as they formulate the debunking of what they are presently hearing. You could read off the pythagorean Theory to them and they would give you a whole ration of hypotheticals
that would show that Pythagorious was a conspiracy theorist because he also had a theory of color and sound that showed all waves behave the in the same manner.

I asked Pomaroo why Arther Scheuerman rerwrote his report on "The Collapse of Building 7", but he never has answered it. All he can do is try to change the subject
to an argument that he thinks he can win...

More on this on Suzi-Q's blog where Ponaroo and Arthur Scheuerman are commenting on two different articals...G:

Geezer Power said...

Well it didn't work...):

I'll have to use a hot link...G:



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